Thanks for the free tutorials I have downloaded everyone. This is the cross I did in whipped running stitch for the stole my son is receiving when he is ordained. I did use the instructions from the stitch library. It is done in gold butterfly thread. I use a tip from Dorothy Clark's book 'Exploring Elizabethan Embroidery'. Dorothy said and I quote"When using DMC gold or silver thread I dab the cut end, where the threads have a tendency to seperate, on to my UHU glue stick." this works like magic and I don't waste gold thread now.