to pin or not--please don't pin mine

[arlee barr]

I'm bothered by the fact that "Pins"are coming from here with no credit to the actual artist. This violates copyright--i don't copy photos to my blog that aren't mine, but people seem to think it's okay to do it there. And now Pinterest can "print" those  pins and make money from my images uncredited and with no financial or artistic recompense to myself or the other artists.

[Emily]

Subject to any applicable account settings you select, you grant us a non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable, sublicensable, worldwide license to use, display, reproduce, re-pin, modify (e.g., re-format), re-arrange, and distribute your User Content on Pinterest for the purposes of operating and providing the Service(s) to you and to our other Users.

I don't know why anyone feels better that they don't claim to "own" or sell the photos, but they clearly take on a whole bunch of rights when you pin someone's photo.  (Note that they even claim the right to transfer the license, so you really don't know who will be allowed to use the photo in the end.)  None of these are something I would want another person to hand over the right to do on my behalf.  Handing over your rights to your work deserves serious consideration.  It simply isn't fair or right to do that for another person.

[arlee barr]

As for the people who say it's ok to pin because it drives traffic to your site, I find it a very specious argument to steal and then say everyone will like what's stolen and want it too, but "pay" for it!

[Kay Warner]

Thank you for doing that Sharon.

sharonb said:

I think I have managed to implement a the no pin meta tag for stitchin fingers - hopefully images here will from this point on not be able to be pined. Past pinned images I can not do anything about - the copyright holder will have to chase it up. 

I say hopefully because even the support on Ning were not sure it would work across the network. 

[Kay Warner]

My little pin doll made for International Womens' Day has been pinned, then repinned several times and finally repinned to a board called "Gifts to Make". All without my knowledge or permission. I know it is a simple little thing, but the title on that board suggests that it is there for people to copy. That's not why I posted it on here. It's not unlikely that boards like this will be printed out as posters, or even put into books, and sold.

 

Arlee, thankyou for putting the credit comment on my dolls!
 
arlee barr said:

As for the people who say it's ok to pin because it drives traffic to your site, I find it a very specious argument to steal and then say everyone will like what's stolen and want it too, but "pay" for it!

[LizW]

This is an excellent thread.  I wonder if some people think they are paying a compliment by pinning someone else's work. You are right though, it;s not OK!

[arlee barr]

If they truly meant to be complimentary, they would a. comment where the original photo is and b. not steal it :)

[Linda Stokes]

I've just read an interesting blog post on copyright issues on Leah Day's free motion quilting blog. I have to say I agree with her. Sorry I don't have the web address, but if you google her name, you'll find it.

Just to be clear, I do not have anything to do with pintarest & would never republish anyone's photos without their permission.

[arlee barr]

I have no problem with "sharing", sharing is what makes the textile world go around. Leah raises some good points, but the issue is not copyrighting a technique or the like: it's that a lot of photos that are pinned are stripped of their meta data by pinterest, or not attributed to the original site by the pinner, and then further removed by repinners--how is this "sharing"?????????

[Lorelei Halley]

Sharon: taking this step is very helpful to all of us.  Thank you.  I do hope it works.

sharonb said:

I think I have managed to implement a the no pin meta tag for stitchin fingers - hopefully images here will from this point on not be able to be pined. Past pinned images I can not do anything about - the copyright holder will have to chase it up. 

I say hopefully because even the support on Ning were not sure it would work across the network. 

[arlee barr]

and it *does* show up as a no pin site so thanks Sharon!

sharonb said:

I think I have managed to implement a the no pin meta tag for stitchin fingers - hopefully images here will from this point on not be able to be pined. Past pinned images I can not do anything about - the copyright holder will have to chase it up. 

I say hopefully because even the support on Ning were not sure it would work across the network. 

[Margaret]

just bringing this to the attention of Lisa a new member to let her know about the downfalls of pinterest

[Elizabeth Braun]

Strange to say, I had all photos pinned from my site removed and now none show on the page where you can see all pins from a certain site.  I also added the 'nopin' business to my blog header HTML code.  BUT yesterday, when checking Google images for any of my photos appearing where they shouldn't, lo-and-behold, someone had managed to pin one from a tutorial on my site!  It wasn't even one of those pinned via CraftGossip, (which I sadly can't prevent), so how in the world??

I've added a thorough 'Copyright' page to my blog and marked all Flickr photos as copyright, but there really is only so much you can do without making a real meal out of it.

BTW, when members say 'add copyright to photos', do they mean anything more than I've already done?  Or are they talking about adding a line of text to the image?